MUFON Journal article on MILABs by
Helmut Lammer
Quoting
form the article:
“Recently, some UFO abductees
have alleged that they were also being kidnapped by military/intelligence
personnel and take to hospitals and/or underground military facilities. Few of the popular books on the subject of UFO abductions
mentioned these experiences. Especially
disconcerting is the fact that abductees recall seeing military/intelligence
personnel working side by side with alien beings in these secret facilities.
The presence of human military and/or civilian personnel inhabiting the
same physical reality as the alien beings exceeds both the mindsets of the
skeptic and the open-minded researcher alike by several orders of magnitude. The skeptics would rather believe that stories of aliens and
military personnel in government underground facilities are fabrication,
designed to elicit attention from conspiracy believers or hallucinations in
general. Researchers in the field
of mind control suggest that these cases are evidence that whole UFO abduction
Phenomenon is staged by the intelligence community as a cover for their illegal
experiments. The open-minded
researchers who fight for a reputation in abduction research ignore these
stories, since they represent only a minor fraction in their files.
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July 21st, 1993 - Medical procedures performed by humans in underground
facility and in a Haz-Mat type of environment
Paraphrasing
from a MUFON Journal article by Helmut:
In
November of 1993 I was abducted, drugged, and taken by two men in camouflage to
an underground facility. In this
experience I was also flown on a triangle shaped craft, and left standing alone
in a large empty hanger.
I
have done extensive hypnosis regressions concerning this event.
When I was discovered being alone in this hanger, by what appeared to be
one of the pilots of the same triangle craft that flew me, he walked up to me
and said; “you’re not supposed to be here”…“what are you still doing
here?”… And then yelled at me; “why are you still here!!!”
This
pilot then escorted me out of the hanger, which backed into an underground
tunnel, and out into the tunnel, which appeared to be an underground road.
The pilot was cussing under his breath the entire time and looking around
for someone who could explain why I was left alone after he dropped me off.
It appeared that someone was supposed to be there waiting for me and was
not. In the tunnel, we were met by
3 military guards, 2 guys in white lab coats and an older gentleman in a green
full dress military uniform who came walking from down this road a ways.
According
to Helmut, and I agree with him, this experience shows that not all the military
personnel on this base had the “need to know” concerning what was going on.
And that there was some sort of communication breakdown that caused the
confusion. Or, it may have been
made to appear that way.
After
the pilot was rebuked and released, I was escorted into a room off the tunnel by
the 3 guards, the man in full uniform and the 2 guys in lab coats.
Inside was a conference table and chairs.
One of the guards quickly grabbed one of the chairs, sliding it across
the linoleum floor, swung it around, and very forcibly pointed for me to sit in
it. The man in full uniform said, as if to apologize for the guard’s behavior,
“please won’t you sit down.” Then he said something to the guards and he
and the older of the 2 men in lab coats exited the room, turned immediately and
entered a door to a room just adjacent to the one we had come in.
As
I was sitting in the chair with the 3 guards standing “parade rest” around
me, a red-hair man in khaki uniform entered the room from the other side.
He excused the guards, who were referring to him as Captain, and they
then left and only he and the younger man in lab coat remained and he gave me a
shot in the arm. He also later had
me drink a very bitter chalky tasting fluid.
I
was very frightened as this red-hair Captain started to accuse me of having done
something wrong. Like the screw-up I witnessed had somehow been my fault.
He pointed his finger at me and spoke very harshly.
He kept looking in my eyes like he was expecting to see them change from
the drugs taking effect. He turned
to the guy in lab coat who nodded to him. I
could feel the drugs coming on. When
this red-haired Captain spoke, it was like he was speaking in slow motion.
When he moved his arms, I could see the movement of his arm.
I
was having a hard time understanding what he was asking me... I was extremely
confused and did know understand what he was accusing me of.
I did not know what it was I had done wrong.
I told him I didn’t do anything. I
kept telling him that I didn’t know what he wanted. He accused me further of
being uncooperative and threatened me. I
pleaded with him to just ask me again.
At
this point he signaled to the guy in the lab coat, who then turned and opened
the door to the room. The guards came back in and grabbed me by the arms, causing
me to stand, and escorted me out the door, across the tunnel, and into another
door. In a small dark room were
standing a bunch of guards, big guys, which then pushed me around in what was a
horrifying and frightening experience. They
made me think I was going to die. I
really thought they were going to kill me. I feel back on the floor and started to kick and scream and
push them away. Eventually they
picked me up; the door was opened, and in walked one of the previous guards who
then escorted me back to the interrogation room where the red-haired captain and
the guy in white lab coat were still waiting.
The
red-haired man then asked me questions about the alien’s technology.
In his article, Helmut added that he does not believe that the
alien/hybrids in military uniforms described by David Jacobs would be interested
in the experiences of humans, which were allegedly done by the creators of the
hybrids! This, as he Helmut points
out, would be very strange, since the alien/hybrids should know more about the
motives and technology of the alleged alien abductors than the abductees would.
In
my interrogation, it appeared they were most interested in information about the
UFO technology as well as motives of the aliens.
I was asked: “What have
they asked you? Tell my about their technology? Tell me about the drive system,
the drive mechanism? How do you
know about it? How are you able to do it? Tell me about what they told you to
do! What did they tell you?
What did they ask you to do? Tell me, tell me, tell me.” He ended here with: “You know, you are not theirs… you
are ours!…”
This
interrogation session was very traumatic for me since I cannot recall that I
answered his questions. My hypnotherapist calmed me down as I had begun crying due to
that last remark by this red-haired guy. As
Helmut points out, after this interrogation I was then brainwashed by him:
“You couldn’t tell me now even if you want”, he said, “You
can’t talk right now. You
couldn’t tell me even if you tried. We
fixed that. Don’t try!
You won’t remember any of this, we fixed it!… You won’t remember
this! It’s a bad dream.
We are taking care of that. You
will not remember. This will only
be a dream to you. You were never
here… I don’t exist…none of this is happening”…
His final words to me were: “And
I will see you again”
As
Helmut points out, I tried to resist the brainwashing procedure, although I was
drugged. Helmut also says that historic cases of mind-control
experiments document procedures similar to my interrogation.
Helmut
goes on to say in the MUFON article that it is typical in these scenarios is
that the interrogated abductee can’t remember what he/she replies to the
interrogator. Most remember some of
the questions, but not the answers. He
added that I found this experience very frustrating, and he’s right, I did!
Helmut
adds from his extensive research into mind control practices: If MILAB abductees
are programmed to spy for the military, the victim may switch between 2
personalities that have been created by the interrogators.
And that while one may understand some of the questions, it is the other
one that would be giving them the answers.
Thus, as a consequence, the abductee would have these memory gaps.
Helmut
has many cases of this kind of “programmed to spy” information retrieval
process going on with the abductees. As
it turns out, to my total amazement, my experience was just an example of what
many MILABs are experiencing. It
would appear that each of us is being used in some way to gather information
during our abductions so that our interrogators can retrieve it at a later time.
I had no understanding of what had happened to me until reading
Helmut’s article, and I had absolutely no idea that this bazaar line of
questioning was like anything any other abductee had experienced.
What
Experiences Have Others Had?
From
the MUFON Journal article and from an article for UFO Magazine, both by Helmut
Lammer:
Abductee
Leah Haley remembered being taken by a helicopter to a military base where she
was interrogated concerning her alleged alien abduction experiences:
“…I
was struggling with them as I was coming off the helicopter.
I don’t understand why they’re taking me in there. I felt a sudden chill. It’s
cold. There’s a man on each side
of me holding my arms tightly. They’re
taking me into a building…I see men seated along the left side of a conference
room table. The man in the blue
uniform is standing to my right. A
man decorated with military pins is standing at the opposite end of the table…
somebody is giving me a shot in the right arm.
It feels like a tetanus shot. The guys in the in the uniform are still
holding me tightly… They look like military people… real short hair… They
don’t look familiar… They force me into a chair… I am just feeling
dizzy… The man form the helicopter said: ‘here she is.
She’s a cocky little bitch.’ Then
somebody on the other side of the room said; ‘Well, we’ll just take care of
that!’… Somebody came up from behind me and put a jacket around my
shoulders…”
Interestingly,
Leah Haley recalled a similar brainwashing scenario as Melinda Leslie.
She also has no memory of what they asker her before.
“…There’s
a man talking to me. He is telling
me I haven’t seen anything. He is
not very nice. I don’t see him
because I’m so dizzy. I’m
leaning my head over. First he was
on the other side of the room, but now he comes close to me and sort of props
himself up against the table. He
said; ‘You didn’t see a spaceship’… They are angry… ‘It’s none of
your damned business… You hadn’t seen anything… You don’t know
anything’. There is a lady with a blue uniform in the room.
She brought in a tape recorder. She
laid it on the end of the table at the other end of the room…”
The
husband of the late Dr. Karla Turner, Casey Turner, also recalled an abduction
where he was drugged, taken to a military underground facility and interrogated
by a military officer. Inside the
underground area he saw large man-made storage tanks, with a building
constructed into the side of the tunnel or a big cavern.
Casey was escorted by men through doors into a waiting area, where he saw
lots of people.
Casey
believes that they interrogated and drugged these people too.
He remembered the following: “…They
are all sitting there, sort of in a daze, like they’ve been drugged.
Just waiting for somebody to come and take them away… I keep getting
the feeling that there’s a military officer who’s real angry… Real
impatient… I don’t have a face to connect with it, but there’s a military
officer that I’m not cooperating with… yeah, I am not cooperating and
they’re real perplexed… I’m not cooperating with them… I’m not in the
state of mind they want me to be in… I get the feeling they want to know,
maybe there’re trying to find out what it is we know… I see a military dress
uniform… Green military dress uniform… I can tell gray hair, clean-shaven…
I’m escorted by the guard out of the room.
We turn left, we turn right and go for some distance.”
“…There
are doors, they aren’t paneled, just steel doors… Now I’m in a small room
where I see only three pieces of furniture, just a metal chair, straight-backed,
and I’m sitting in the chair. And
a desk, plain military-type with nothing on top.
With an officer standing behind it.
He’s got a chair, but he’s not sitting in it.
The guard stands outside and shuts the door. It’s just me and this officer guy. Like he’s in charge. And
I don’t like him, so I won’t answer his questions… I’m fighting; I’m
rebelling… I can her him yelling…’Tell me, Tell me…’ That’s all I
can remember…”
Lisa
(pseudonym for one of Helmut’s cases) was also interrogated by her military
kidnappers. In August of 1993, Lisa
had an alien encounter, only to be followed the next night by a military
kidnapping. The first night Lisa
had what she called a reality-like dream of traveling in a spaceship with a Grey
alien. The
being was telepathically instructing her how to make the craft maneuver around
objects. The Grey told her that the
craft could sense objects and maneuver around them.
The following night Lisa had a
traumatic flashback that she experienced as:
“…I was being interrogated by the military and pushed around. I was on the ground with my hands on the back of my head,
with a gun pushing and holding me down. Men
in green military clothes were asking me questions. While men in black military clothes were in the background by
the military vehicles. They kept
saying over and over, to give them the knowledge, and they said at any cost…
do you understand? At any cost!”
After
this Lisa’s memory ended, and she wrote in her journal that she couldn’t
figure out what it was the military men wanted to know.
In December, she remembered lying on a stretcher and being pushed down a
hallway that was lit with bright lights. Something
was inserted into her left ear, and she passed out.
She remembered also men wearing business suits.
One of these men caller her by her maiden name.
After
some time she got more flashbacks of what occurred during this encounter:
“…all of a sudden I’m surrounded by men in black clothes and some
military men dressed in green.” Lisa
was force to walk very quickly across the grounds of the installation…” the
soldiers were rude to me… I told them to stop pushing on me.
I was very irritated by them. Then
we went into an office of some type…. A man was sitting behind the desk.
He was wearing solid green military type clothes, but had not nametag or
medals on it. He started asking me
questions about what I felt about the aliens.
It seemed like he was wondering how to get the public prepared. I told him that a lot of the public was already aware, and
some would never accept it…”
During
another interrogation, she met the same man as before.
He told her that she was the key to understanding.
“…He was saying it’s in my
head and it had to be unlocked, and that I belong to the Government.
Also, men in green military clothes were standing beside me with
guns, and I thought there were some men in black uniforms behind me.
I remember standing up and then being make to sit in an old wooden chair
in a concrete-floored room. He wore
military clothes and kept tapping me with his fingers on the front and sides of
my head, like he was frustrated with me…”
Again
the sentence: “It’s in your
head, and it had to be unlocked,” points to a hypnoprogrammed courier or spy.
Helmut presents more evidence in his MILABs book of cases with such
dissociative programming.